So after reading this lastest information. I guess I will have to sit out the FTA Channels to see what comes back to the smaller dish and LNBF I use. I don't have a BUD and that is not in my budget. I'll have to sit and wait for the coders to do there work. It was great whating the FTA when I had it. THanks for all the help from you guys. If anyone finds a way to use the FTA Channels with the smaller dish, let me know. I guess FTA is Free if you can find it!