for the first time in my bin loading history i have no signal...i have loaded and waited for updates, but never had a flatline.

Reboot you receiver via rear switch OFF and ON again.

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did that

should i add that it didn't werk

Do factory reset, load factory file then the latest fix and rescan your sat's again. That should work for you.

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are you kidding? are the files here encrypted differently? i never had to go through more hoops before.

and will the latest fix automatically generate a channel list...big problem i had the last time i did a factory reset.

Since I loaded the dec 03 fix, my box seems to have died. I have a blank screen on my box where it usually shows channel. I tried to update a new fix, but even my remote won't bring up a menu. I'm at a loss. Any suggestions?Thanks

Oh and the last time I did a factory reset, I had to have my box completely reformatted by a "super User". He told me to never do that?????

Factory reset is a simple procedure, you don't need a " super user " to do that. Obviously he doesn't know what he is talking about if he told you never to do that. To sort channels you need to go menu and select Sort By Sid option, that will sort out your channels.

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