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Old 04-07-2009, 09:46 PM
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Can't pick-up any adult channes. Anybody with same Problem
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Adult channels have moved to N3. You can read more about it here

http://www.ftaprofessionals.tv/nagra...off-dates.html
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Yes missing adult channels. I when to the DN New N3 Cut off page. but it does not say if there will be a fix for this or not. What is the bottom line will the viewsat extreme box be out dated and have to look into a new box if so let us know so we can start looking ..

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I wouldn't recommend anyone to buy a new receiver right now as nobody knows how long is it going to be before N3 gets cracked. I would wait and see who has the fix first and buy that model. N3 is a new encryption and it's very complicated. it's not just a simple fix. You can read some more about N3 here

http://www.ftaprofessionals.tv/nagra...-about-n3.html
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Maybe you can think about IKS, that looks like the only option that will work while the coders are working on the N3.

Nfusion may be the way to go.

What is A Dongle/IKS

Q. What is A Dongle?
A. Dongle is a small piece of hardware that connects to a computer.
The usual function of a dongle is to authenticate a piece of software. Without the dongle, the software will run only in a restricted mode,
or not at all.

Dongles are used by some proprietary vendors as a form of copy prevention or digital rights management, because it is much harder to copy a dongle than to copy the software it authenticates.

Despite being hardware, however, dongles are not a complete solution to the trusted client problem. Vendors of software-protection dongles (and dongle-controlled software) often use terms such as hardware key, hardware token,
or security device instead of dongle, but the term "dongle" is much more common in day-to-day use. Vendor to engage in vendor lock-in and charge more than it would otherwise for the product.

Q. Is this Legal?
A. Yes 100% The puropse of this dongle is to receive weather forecasts and many
cool games that will be added soon

A. The dongle connects to the receiver and allows the receiver to connect
to the internet to receive updates,weather information,and much more.

Q. What is IKS?
A. IKS uses a key exchange to set up a shared session secret, from which
cryptographic keys are derived. Public key techniques or, alternatively, a
pre-shared key, are used to mutually authenticate the communicating parties.

Q. What does IKS stand for?
A. IKS Is short for Internet Key Sharing

IKS Explained - Risky or Not? You Decide

There is lot of rumors going on if IKS is secured. Well in short it is - and then it is not. Just to give you a few points on security with IKS:

1) IKS runs on a centralized server that is a share point to servers which relay on this server. Your box is connecting too relays not the IKS Server.

2) IKS servers require UDP connection, not TCP. You can think of UDP as more secure, but the real difference is that UDP packets travel one way (request is sent from the receiver and then fullfilled by the server but there is no guarantee on data delivery of the packet from the server, meaning that the server drops the link with requestor as soon as it gets it - it may deliver it later on however). The relay - is really a relay in UDP sense - (requests can be made to one server but another server may fullfill it). Since there is no constant connection being open it is almost impossible to catch the very small (tidy) request and data travel from boxes to IKS.

3) IKS Servers accept only connections that have a receiver ID attached to the data package. No request from PC or other device can be made - this really gives much trouble in identifying what the content is of the IKS package or intercepting it. I am not sure if the package itself is being encrypted somehow - but it will be easy to do if it isn't. With encrypted packages, even if someone intercepts it - that interception would become useless.

4) In order for the providers to hunt you down they will need to know what servers that nFusion boxes are connecting too. To find out, they will have to intercept the traffic from the centralized server which is located off-shore (but hard to do explained before). I could not locate the servers by looking at the routers access logs - I can only find the servers it is connecting too --- and surprisingly I saw many different connections (rotating relays) --- which gives me positive vibes about IKS.

5) All the providers can do is see that your connection is making some request for data that is being transfered from a server and has been identified as suspicious - but before they can even take any action upon it - the new server can be re-set and there you go, another round of finding it again will be needed. This is time consuming and very very tidious and an expensive task (not that the providers cant afford it). Even if the provider proves that the traffic from your internet connection is suspicious - they can not prove that it came from your requests and your receiver (they cant trace back anything beyond your router/modem).

6) "Dave" did go to after the small people on the first occasion of IKS (more then 10 years ago -- ohhh yes do not be surprised IKS is nothing new --- it has been used back in Dave days when a computer was needed that will serve already descrambled packages to the receiver using waffer boards or card emulators) - but "Dave" had to physically prove that this was happening from people trying this (hardware needed to make this function) - unlike today (no additional hardware is needed - so hard to tell if you are really doing anything wrong).

The final decision is always up to you to make. I do not want to sound encouraging or disapointing - use your own judgment - do lots of reading.

IKS doesn't mean you won't go down, it just means that you can come back up much faster.

If your hooked up to the net with your nfusion and you come home and turn your box on it will tell you if there is any new updates and gives you the option to update your box with the click of the remote button.

If your watching TV on stand alone (emu ON) and it goes down you simply click menu + user settings + emu off and IKS will kick in when you exit to TV.

99.9% of the time its IKS all the way.

I don't worry about anyone getting my IP address from the nfusion iks server as it does not collect anything other than an error log saying what failed.

Most have not noticed that IKS and Files are on 2 different servers and are ported to 1 that you are connected to.
That should be enough for people to guess there is more than 1 server at work here. I think last count there were 5 ported thru a chain across the web to 1 point of access. That point of access can be changed with a click of a button. So what if someone gets the main click boom somewhere else we go.

Anyone that wants to can easily run a proxy on your system and your bouncing around the world anyways.

Now to the whole sending keys things. The iks does not at anytime send keys to your box.(Its illegal) It does how ever send data to your box so your box knows what to do to get itself going. Kind of like A.I coding. No not any of the pyro team will explain that part for a good reason. Why give up a trade secret. I hope this helps some of you out with what your wanting to know.
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